SaraSai Woods: Transforming Lives Through Conscious Communication

Today on Founders Go Naked, we have a very, very special guest, which is SaraSai Woods. Correct me if I’m pronouncing that right. It’s perfect. Thank you. And I think SaraSai is so unique and special in what she does. And I really can’t wait to get into this interview. I’ll keep it a secret as to what she does, because that would just make it more intriguing, right? So, SaraSai please tell us about your fascinating journey into business.

Wow. Well, Covid hit me like it did everybody else. I was in my lovely life juggling all the balls in the air that we all normally juggle. I had like three different types of careers. One, singing opera all over the world, you know, standing on stages to thousands of people, hundreds of people and commanding presentations and, and yeah. Amazing, traveling the world. But then side by side with that Terence I also loved helping people and, you know, the world of opera is the world of ego, really. It’s about status and power. And I was in to call on all of that because I was blessed with an incredible talent, God given talents. But really, it was never about the career for me. It was always about singing love into the world. That was my inspiration. And then, you know, before I did that, I trained as a nurse and then I became a master coach, you know, executive, strategic coach. And I was kind of juggling all these different things. But one of the things I specialized in was helping people with cancer and helping people with end of life transitions. That gave me a huge insight into what life’s all about and how we’re wasting our time on everything that doesn’t matter, on the distractions and the diversions and all, and the presumption that you’re gonna have a tomorrow which, I don’t know a single soul on the planet who can guarantee they’ll be here tomorrow or even an hour from now. But we live with this illusion. And what I experienced, 30 years of this side by side of my singing career was that people arrived at the departure gates of life, getting ready to go, and they’ve run out of time and they’ve run out of energy. And it was game over. And this is the high and the mighty, as well as ordinary everyday people, you know, celebrated celebrities, VIPs, I had all manner of people from all walks of life that I was working with, and there was a commonality when you put people in pajamas, we’re all the same, and we all have our hopes and our dreams that we want to fulfill. But nobody knows when the game’s gonna be up. And it seemed really important to me, then to help people awaken to what really matters. Looking at life from a 360 degree view to see why am I here? Was I just born to be successful? No. You have a divine purpose in this lifetime, and with most people are so intent on surviving life, being able to create a career… and this has been me included, but not exclusively. We all have to do what we have to do to pay the bills, right? But that can completely block you from tuning in to a deeper purpose, which is calling your name and for which you were born. And people don’t tune into that. They don’t take the time to pay attention to that thinking there will be time tomorrow. So really, for me, it’s all about conscious communication because you know, your audience and me. Also, I’m a speaker. I’m an author. I present programs, transformational programs, and so therefore we need presentation. But a lot of the time when people are presenting themselves, they’re not actually they’re. There’s this mask of inauthenticity, a smokescreen between you and your audience, which blocks you from being able to be… okay, no matter what happens… the screen behind you falls down, the microphone doesn’t work, or everybody sits, stony faced looking at you, and nobody’s really… it looks like nobody likes what you’re saying, but they’re secretly delighted with what you’re saying.

We project onto our audiences who we think they are. So therefore one, we’re not here or over there, we’re not with them. And when you become a magnet for success, like my brand is Vocalezy, communication for success. You’re it. You’re the brand. It’s not actually what you do. And everybody’s so busy with the message. But what I do is I work with the messenger.

So that you are home in yourself so that you have no concerns, no fears that you can handle any situation that life brings, that you’re bulletproof in your life, that you have equanimity. And I’m not talking about doing meditation. I’m talking about really coming home to yourself in this lifetime so that you fulfill the true game of life before you go living on purpose. So you live without regrets. And that’s conscious communication for conscious living and conscious creation. It’s basically a wake up alarm call for the world. We need to wake up. Look what’s happening around us. 

It’s kind of like those people that tell you, you know, you know, you meditate on your death like Steve Jobs used to do. It’s not like a negative thing because it’s actually more of a… hey, wake up. You’re not immortal. Like, let’s face it, no one’s immortal. Even despite all the longevity stuff

that’s happening right now. Hey, maybe you might live to 150, but, hey, you still will go expire one day, right? But the thing is, we are immortal. That’s the big lie. We are immortal beings. There’s three versions of you, Terence, there’s you look in the mirror and then you see Terence.

Oh, and you have a name, and I’m Terence, right? Yep, yep. That’s who you think you are. Yeah. You look and that’s, you know, you see your physique, your face, the clothes you wear, all of that kind of thing. And that’s Terence. And then there’s all the people in the world who know you. And they have a mental projection of who you are, which they often impose on you. And it can be like a straitjacket that you can’t get out of where, you’re not allowed to be anything other than the Terence they want you to be right? Yeah. So, like…

– The funny guy, or… you know, the serious business man or whatever it is, right?

Yeah.

Or whatever you’re offering is at the time, like if you’re doing this now. Oh, Terence the podcaster. And then next month, it could be Terence, whatever else. The business man, you know, and you’re a different Terence to your parents as to your partner or to children, but actually, there’s only one of you. And if you even think you know, Terence, since you were a little boy, think of all the faces you’ve had, all the different bodies you’ve had. Which one is the real you?

Don’t know.

None of them. None of them. They’re not the real you. The real you is who you are on the inside. Yeah. Because there’s like a a divine presence inside every person. And when I say divine, I’m talking about, like, really divine, beyond religion. But a divine truth of who we are, divine consciousness, pure love. Who we are is an embodiment of love. But do we relate to ourselves as such? Most of the time we’re just relating to ourselves as whatever our habits and sabotaging beliefs are and our limiting thoughts. You know, this whole smorgasbord of illusionary attachments and desires that we say is, this is me. No, it isn’t. And so, like, I want people to be able to break out of their box, break out of the prison of the mind, and be fully self expressed. Would you believe, Terence, I was shy and introverted and self-conscious.

No.

– That’s how I started out. But in order to have a singing career, I had to do something about this. That’s what I love to help people with now, finding that inner confidence that has them shine and be free of concern, be free of all fear. And a speaker is… every single person needs this, you know. And that’s the beginning of the journey to move away who you think you have to be to win the prize, to get the client, to be successful, to get approval, to not be judged, to not be criticized, to not be annihilated. Often when people are speaking, it’s about it’s about like survival. And you know, I have to say this is like something you can learn. I remember, you know, I’m in London and when I first came to London I was coming to music college. I remember I used to sit on the underground tube trains and I was terrified somebody would

look at me and I would blush. I’d be embarrassed. That’s how shy I was. Yeah. And how could you have a career singing or standing on a stage being center, you know, I was the leading lady, the diva. So how can you have all that focus on you if you’re cringing at the thought anyone’s looking at you? So we’ve got to go beyond ourselves to be ourselves. I mean, do you see any of this relating to you? Any kind of plain, small, any, holding yourself back, you know, any fears, roadblocks, anything like that?

Yeah. I was just thinking, like, a few things that came to mind when you were saying all this stuff… Okay, a lot of the way that I personally act out in my business life and on my personal life is I think it’s been from like a lot of fears and failures that have happened in the past that prevents me from actually going there again. And, you know, subconsciously, I’m avoiding that at all costs. But sometimes I feel I need to go back there. But it’s too scary because it’s like

there’s all this emotions attached to it, which I, in most times, I’m not even aware of. That’s the issue, I think.

Listen, I really applaud you for actually being willing to say that, especially on camera. But to me, that’s a courageous act because you’re being authentic. And that’s where power

lies. In being authentic. But what I would say to you is, this is what I love about this work. Do you want to get out of prison? Do you want to get out of the prison of the mind?

Yeah?

– Yeah, yeah, let’s get out of the matrix.

Yeah, exactly. But, you know, it’s basically you gotta… So look, you’ve got three voices. You got the voice in your head. That’s what you were just talking about. So this one is like, I call it the grimy gremlins or scary saboteurs. Right? You know, this running commentary telling you you’re not good enough? You’re… you look awful. You sound awful. Nobody wants to listen to you. All of the things we say to ourselves, you know… you’re a failure, no clients are going to come… all of this. Yeah, that’s just… that’s thoughts, sabotaging thoughts. But if you give them the microphone, they run the show. So you’re not even there. You’re not even communicating

with anyone there. They are. And so… it’s not that difficult. What you need is to get in touch with the voice, your inner voice, your divine compass, the voice of truth inside you, which is the observer of those thoughts. If you think… that who notices that you have those thoughts, once you can detach a little bit from the thoughts and see these are like passing clouds. Imagine you are the sky and the clouds are going by. The thoughts are going by. And this is not a new concept, but actually people find it hard to gain access to that part of themselves because it’s so all permeating these sabotaging, wrongful beliefs and limiting ideas. And, you know, I go into a sort of deep level, but a deep level of empowerment because you need to just, detach from all that’s stopping you. And the way to do that is to give voice to your heart. And being authentic means being willing to face yourself in the mirror. But one of the things that I think you’re a little afraid of is where that’s going to lead you. And a lot of people are worried about past traumas, which they’ve squashed down. And when I say traumas, I mean just things that didn’t work out,

things that you decided were not safe. It wasn’t safe for you to be you. It wasn’t safe, yeah. That’s it. Being you was not safe in some way. And so you had to be another version of you that was going to be accepted and appreciated and loved. And that’s what we do. That’s the game. But that’s a lie. And that’s basically evidence we gathered from childhood. Something happens

and we gather evidence that this is the truth and then we relate to it as the truth. And so you simply need to reframe that truth in an empowering context. So that’s kind of what we do when you also have somebody like me who has a conscious presence listening to that, all it takes is one time to be seen and heard and known. And it’s done, because you’re taking the sting… the venom out of the snake, the sting out of the tail. And, you know, this is what I really felt, Terence. You know, many people left the body. You know, I was there with hundreds and hundreds of people as they transitioned, and many of them had never felt seen or heard by anyone for their entire lives. But it’s impossible to be if you’re wearing this mask of pretense. And you know, the culture of cool has forced us into this. You know, all this cool kind of attitude. Why do you think there’s so much suicide in young people? They’re so busy trying to hold up the pretense of the perfect life, which social media… let’s not blame social media, it’s the way we use it, but then we get locked into the prison of our own perceptions, and people literally leave the body. They take their life because they can’t see a way forward. You can see, look, you can see…. Terence, I’m really sorry, but I’m passionate about this because I believe we were born to remember and to awaken. And I see that as my job to help people. 

So SaraSai, you have helped, hundreds of people, like, transition from this life to, you know, wherever it is. Yeah, the other thing is, I’m curious, because you had so much experience and you had all these people basically transition, and through that you saw that, hey, if only they had found their true voice… communicated with their true self, life could have been so much different. Yeah. I’m just curious, like some of your clients that have worked with you and have gone through that transition and found their true voice, how has it impacted them in their lives

and in their businesses? Yeah. I’m just curious if you’ve got some examples there. 

So I’ve worked with families, even. One woman sent me two of her, nearly grown up young adult children, who are going through a really tough time but hadn’t got a vision for their lives that was strong enough to keep them away from all the problems that they were experiencing in the culture for young people. You know, suicidal ideation is a big deal these days. And, you know, a lot of kids don’t know, especially post-Covid, they don’t know what life they can have. Our guarantees have been taken away. It’s like our life insurance policy is a waste. You know, we don’t know what we can rely on. So it’s never been more urgent then for people to plug in, to their possibility and their power and their potential. So for me, if you’re not doing that, you’re wasting your life. You need to be living consciously. Then you can choose from what fires you up. So I have many, many people. I mean, you know, I talked with you about my time with people with cancer and end of life transitions. I’m not doing that now. Yes, I have those skills. But I work with entrepreneurs and leaders and speakers because they are the visionaries

of our world now. They are the people who can paint the picture for others to follow, but they must be home for them to claim their full power. And then they will be the magnets that allows others to be elevated by their gifts. 

It sounds to me it’s kind of like we all have that, like, divine spark in us, right? Yeah. And it’s like, as we grow up, people say, oh, you can’t do that, you’ll only hurt yourself. And it’s like throwing a blanket over it, and then someone else smacks you in the face and says, oh no, you shouldn’t do that. And you get thrown another blanket over it. You get into business failure. You get rejected. More blankets are thrown over it, and eventually you can’t see that spark. Yeah. That’s right. That’s that’s where you need to work or that’s how you come in and work with people to remove those blankets, to reveal that spark again. Yeah, it’s actually just plugging you into you. So it’s like… if you’re listening to external voices, you’re giving your power away. You need to be listening to your internal voice. But to do that you need to plug into you. You need to hear your own inner being speaking. So it’s it’s a paradigm shift because the world is kind of making us look out, you know, there’s so much noise, there’s so much, in a way, our consciousness is being bombarded with endless information to basically seduce us into paying attention in a way that there’s fear of missing out, that if we don’t watch this and we don’t watch that, we could miss out on something, that will be the thing that gets us to success. And it’s a game and it’s not in our favor. All answers lie within you. And you know what? Your voice will tell me everything you need to know because you have the answers in you. But you are not taking the time to prioritize you. So it’s like trying to fix life instead of coming home. And when you’re home, the sky’s the limit. All doors are open, you know? So it’s kind of like instead of like, seeking more knowledge, more tactics, more strategies…

Yeah.

– We should also be spending more time or maybe we should be first spending more time coming home.

Absolutely.

– And then we can go out and add more to it. Yeah. Because look, you know, if if somebody’s speaking, presence is the only thing that’s going to command the presence of the listeners.

You have to be present moment by moment. So how present can you be? Like, if you really pay attention to that, I’d invite your listeners, just pay attention. You know, most of the time we’re just rehashing the same old, same old thoughts, bombarding ourselves with these voices of denial, telling us we can’t. And, you know, positive thinking is good, but it’s not good enough. You actually need to go deeper than positive thinking. Because positive thinking

is still related to thoughts. And you want to be bypassing thought. Where actually, there’s nobody talking anymore. You are the consciousness that allows the wisdom to be communicated. You are no longer identified with the separate self. You are here in service. You’re plugged into God’s voice within you, Because every single soul on the planet, every being, has that divine consciousness and nobody is excluded. And you know, another thing in our culture nowadays, I think a lot of people feel that we’re all supposed to be extroverted, and the winners of the world are usually extroverts. I think we’re entering into the era of the liberated introvert.

So what’s the difference between an introvert and a liberated introvert?

So liberated introvert, basically is fully present. Doesn’t have to be anything they are not. Doesn’t have to do… If you look at any of these big shows, that I’m not going to name any names, but there’s so much rah rah. Yeah, let’s get up and dance. Yea, all of this kind of thing. All the introverts want to run away kicking and screaming from all of that. There’s such a space for people to just be consciously present without that. All of that is an effort, really. It’s an effort to fix something, which is the idea that if you don’t do that, nobody will listen or nobody will feel the impact of your presentation. I don’t… and you know, I know one of the things you wanted to talk about is the challenges. I think the biggest challenge is how to be yourself. And that’s been my life’s work. You know, when I started out, my very first singing competition, I’d never sung on stage, I’d never sung in public. And there were 41 little girls all singing the same song. It was called June by Roger Quilter. And there I was. Now, the thing is, I was a foot taller than everyone else. I was so embarrassed with myself, so self-conscious. I was so shy. And then I was put onto a stage and told to sing, right? And my mother was sitting in the audience and she was listening to 41 renditions of the same song. Long story short, I got second prize. I got the silver medal. But the… Yeah, but the guy who was giving the prizes, the adjudicator, basically said He spoke at length about me. “By far she has the greatest talent, the greatest potential. But I have to give the mark.” So the one who got the gold medal, she was all girly whirly. She was like all sweetness and light and smiles and dancing. You know, this kind of energy. And I was cringing. I know most people who are introverted can relate to that. Like I wanted to run away,

but I loved singing. And when I came off stage, my mom said to me, you should have got first place. Why can’t you just be yourself? And I took that to mean, as we all do, Ugh, I failed, I missed the prize. I need to be something other than how I am to get the prize. I spent a whole long time on that journey trying to be… Like, everyone I know can relate to this, I bet. Quietly,

in the corners of your mind, you have a story like this where, you know, you started reinventing yourself as you know, the better version of you. The censored version of you that’s going to be successful. It didn’t work. And, you know, I had success. But I was not being true to myself entirely… until I went through the post process of awakening to the gift of pure presence.No longer going out to meet the world, but inviting the world in to meet me. And I realized that what my mom was saying is, I know who you are. I know your greatness. You know, our parents, we interpret there, the lines. Most people have, you know, things that they remember their parents saying at some point in their life that maybe had them feel diminished or retract a little bit. But when I’m talking about reframing, when you reframe that within a spiritual context, you see how those words of wisdom are our greatest gifts of awakening. My mother knew who I really was, the joy that I am, the pure love that I am. And she was wondering why I was not letting people see that. But you know, it’s part of going through life that you know, evaluations as you’re going along. You know, we all do. Yeah. Yeah, reframing gives people freedom, reframing whatever happened in a way that you see a deeper truth within it that maybe you hadn’t spotted before… …that has you see your life in an entirely different context. And, know, you talk about the world we’re living in now and the importance of getting out of the matrix. The matrix doesn’t exist. Unless we give it reality, all there is is the opportunity to be present or to be absent. And if we buy into it, then we are buying into a belief that there is a matrix. But when you’re plugged into your true self, nothing exists. Only God’s plan, only divine reality.

Let’s talk about that a bit, SaraSai, because I think you mentioned a few times that, you know, you got to find your purpose or your divine purpose. So is there one purpose for everyone or are there multiple purposes? And what happens if you miss your purpose? 

If you miss your purpose, you don’t graduate from the class and you come back again to take your same class. Okay. That’s how we stay in the birth death continuum, right?

Right, right. Got it.

So yeah, there is one purpose. And the purpose is to remember who we are as divine embodiments of love. Yeah, we are divine. That’s not just… that’s it. That’s everything.

Okay, so it’s not like, oh, I’m supposed to be a scientist in this life, or I’m supposed to have 0 children in this life or whatever? Yeah. So the doing… there is a doing aspect to this life. The huge purpose, the unique and sole purpose for all is awakening to the truth of who we are. But then the individual purpose, because you’re in that individual body labeled as Terence. So you are a soul with a past and potentially a future, but a definitely a past. Past incarnations, past lifetimes, whereby the laws of cause and effect, you took certain actions which might have been a plus for you and certain actions which might have been a minus. And so there can be a debt from previous lifetimes that you came to pay in this lifetime, and that can cause the circumstances and the tendencies in your personality, which as long as you’re identifying as being Terence you’re acting out the personality. You’re still identified with that, limited self. Make sense? Are you following me?

– Somewhat. Yeah. It’s deep.

It is deep. Well, I follow you somewhat. Yeah. So, if you think I’m not, I’m not this body. So, if you think I’m not… I’m not this body. I’m not this mind. You know, it’s part of who you are. But it’s not the essence of who you are. And the essence of who you are…look, when you leave the body, when you go to sleep at night, your body’s in the bed, but you’re off traveling. You’re not right here. Yeah, yeah. Which basically is a rehearsal for death. And people don’t realize it. That’s what death is. You just leave the body, but you don’t come back. So all the terror about that is like an illusion itself. You can’t die because you weren’t even born. Your divine consciousness,

having a temporary experience in a physical body to play the part of Terence. So you want to be the best Terence, you can be, but ultimately you want to transcend being Terence and play being God. Ultimately, practice detaching. But, you know, Terence, as long as you are playing the part of Terence, you may be have some goals and some desires. But from the worldly perspective, my advice to people is reduce your desires, reduce your goals because they trap you in what you believe to be the matrix. They keep you chasing your tail where you cannot be present because you’re always future based, trying to get somewhere else other than here. Yeah? Like what if being here now was all there is and it was good and it was perfect?

That sounds pretty cool. Doesn’t it?

Yeah.

And it is cool.

Yeah. Like, what if we never had to worry about making a mistake? What if mistakes were divine? What if all the things we thought were wrong turns and errors were perfectly choreographed for our benefit. And that is the truth of how it is. Nothing ever goes wrong. Yeah, I know this is deep, so we’re kind of veering away from maybe what most people might be interested in, which is how I can help them, you know? So, really, it starts with your voice. Claiming your voice is like claiming yourself, and then you begin the journey of self development, self awakening, self-evaluation. And then according to your commitments, you know, this is.. is that you’re really finally on the real track of life, playing the proper game, you know? Right. Right.

Because I think one thing comes to mind, like… SaraSai, correct me if I’m wrong, but a lot of people will kind of like chase their dreams. But that is not necessarily what your divine self wants or needs. And…

– Yeah.

…it’s kind of like at the end of it, you don’t feel that even though you might have millions of dollars, you might have the fancy cars and everything, but you don’t feel fulfilled.

Yeah.

Is that what we’re saying here? Thinking that you have to create anything to be enough is the seduction. And a lot of that is the ego. The mind’s telling you you’re not enough. And so you need to prove you’re enough with these fancy cars and the big houses and all of that. So a lot of people are trapped in this. Yeah, I’m not against any of that. I think, great, we’d love all those things! There’s no problem with any of that. Just don’t let it be what drives you. So, when you’re making conscious choices from presence and from knowing who you are, you’re in the perfect place then to magnetically draw all of these things to you. You don’t have to do the donkey work

in the way you would have. So it’s like a, kind of like a shortcut, in a way. It is. Yeah, but it’s a shortcut where you’re going to get to your destination. If you think, you get on a train. Why? Because you want to get somewhere. It’s like, sorry. Game over. You know, you got to go back to the beginning again. And that’s like, that’s frustrating. I don’t want to do that anymore. Yeah, I want to finish the game in this lifetime. And this is the golden opportunity in this life. We’re at such an exciting time in the world. People are talking about doom and gloom. There’s never been a better time to create consciously than now, when the contrast in our world is so ferocious. It’s so in our faces that if we don’t start being conscious creators, how on earth are we going to, like, live in the world we want to live in? We have to become visionary leaders. And so, you know, anyone works with me, this is what’s really going on. Like getting into the driving

seat of life, through conscious intention. So I think it’s the most exciting possibility. Yeah. I don’t know anyone wouldn’t want to live this way. Anyone, like, even Steve Jobs. I think he was… Do you remember his deathbed? He made some speech. He was digging deeper into spiritual awareness as well. He used to carry the book, the Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda, with him everywhere. He would never go anywhere without it. So he knew there was more, you know, and I think we should be demanding more for ourselves than just the frills and the tinsel trivialities of life, which is the seduction. You know, basically a lot of people,

if you think, what is it you really want? Say you work really, really hard all week and you want some things to treat yourself at the end. What do we think of? We think of alcohol. Some people think of drugs. Some people think of having a great time with their partner. So, you know, some people want to binge on Netflix. These are all the things. Or some people just will have a whole load of foods. These are all the things that kind of anesthetize us from life. Or games you know, all these virtual games that people can play or, you know, speed dating or whatever it is. It’s all basically to distract us. And also to comfort us from having to live so separate from ourselves.

That’s the real loneliness of life now. People are living lonely lives, pretending like you are, on Facebook or wherever else, pretending to have an amazing life. And then they go home to the reality of their internal experience, which doesn’t reflect what they’re putting out, you know? And so there’s a lot of silent resignation, that people are not being honest with themselves about the value of life. And I want people to be excited, inspired. For me, it’s about living an inspired life. That’s the opportunity in this lifetime to live an inspired life free from concern and regrets, so that when your number is up, it’s like, wow, I had a great time, but I achieved what I came for, you know?

So SaraSai, I’m curious how can people… first of all, how do you help people live that inspired life? Number one. And number two, if they so desire, how can they reach out to you? Okay, so let me show you this. Here we go. You see, up on top here. Yep. They can click on a link. That’s the link, basically. They click on a link. What I love to do is I love to listen to people. I love to just have a one off session to start. You know, a lot of people say people need to know, like and trust you. For me, people trust me straight away because when somebody is authentic, that is a safe space and you can feel it. So, you know, it’s just us getting into a zoom room together. 60 minutes. What it’d be like if you have a voice master who has used their voice to seduce hundreds of thousands of people all over the world with my singing. And then I was doing some speaking as well.To give you an evaluation, a professional evaluation of your voice, how your voice can work for you, how your voice can be a magnet. There needs to be love in your voice. Your voice is unique to you, and people take it for granted. They never examine how they can use their voice to create their brands and to create their authority and positioning. So we do that. I have, you know, you’ve heard of IQ, intelligence quotient? IQ? Yeah, of course. And you’ve heard of EQ.

Yes, I’ve heard of EQ.

– Emotional Quotient?

Well I’ve created CQ, Communication Quotient.

I like that.

– So you see… You see my book here, Communication for Success. I can’t even read what it says there. Okay. How to unlock the roadblocks in your life to transform all relationship results and rewards? It’s basically giving people the secret keys to the kingdom of communication. So in that one hour, I listen to their voice. I give them professional feedback. For example, many people who have accents may feel that the accent sometimes isn’t working in their favor. And just like actors and public speakers and, politicians sometimes attune their accents or they’re speaking for more impact. I can help your accent work for you. So I have ways of doing that without changing anything about the accent. Just tools and tricks that can really have no roadblocks between you and your audience. And so I give people the 60 minutes and then 15 minutes for Q&A, and then they get access to this free book, The Nine High Seas The Golden Keys for Successful Communication. And that’s an audiobook as well. And then some basic warmup exercises for the voice. And that’s all included in my breakthrough call. So that’s the best way for people to reach me right now. I’m putting other things together. I really want to give a lot of great value to people, but the most value is in our meeting because everybody is unique

and individual and has their own hangups and their own issues. And like, we just immediately zoom in on anything that’s in your way so you’re free. And then you’ve got a roadmap of how to present yourself more authentically and to be yourself free from all concern. That sounds wonderful. 

Who would benefit most from this? Would it be like business owners, like leaders, sales people?

Yeah, any entrepreneur, anyone who’s up to big things, basically. Entrepreneurs, leaders, speakers. But I don’t like to exclude anyone, anyone who feels called to this because when I say we are the magnets, there’s a certain vibration that is a yes, a certain, awareness and readiness

that has people be a yes. So anybody who feels that there’s anything blocking them from shining their light in the world, from fulfilling their highest mission. Yeah, I’d love to meet them.

All right, so you got it, guys. Make sure you sign up for this wonderful opportunity.